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  FORENSIC ANALYSIS: The Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  pattern of excuses.

  example #1. blame the bible !.

  proclaimer's book*** jv chap.

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  cha ching

  Thank you again, Terry!

  I love the title! Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie.

  Thank you for spending your time finding all these quotes!

  So many people make excuses for them: "They are so good hearted" "They work so hard" or even this lame, stupid, moronic one (my JW sister gave) "Don't tell anybody this, but I think they are just a bunch of little old men who might have alzheimers" Why is she listening to them!!???? Really? Go down to a rest home, and listen to someone with Alzheimers! Base your life on what they tell you????

  They had the same pattern of reasoning when it came to 1975. Blame the publishers for getting too excited! Same b.s. from the same mouths.

  How many people can get their hands on these publications? Or have the time? Keep running on the hamster wheel.... Run, run, run!

  Do.... not.... sit....with.... men.... of.... lies....
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  Reveal article Feb. 25, 2016 - "JWs' sex abuse scandal is a lot like Catholic Church's"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-scandal-is-a-lot-like-catholic-churchs/.

  jehovah’s witnesses’ sex abuse scandal is a lot like catholic church’s.

  by heidi hirvonen / february 25, 2016 .

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  We are very fortunate to have a team as dedicated as this Reveal crew is, as they are willing to do the research it takes to get at the root of the problem.

  Just like the Boston Globe took quite some time investigating the Catholic Church, to expose the problems from those at the top, it will take some time- and evidence - to expose those at the top in the Watchtower.

  I remember as a child hearing over and over again denunciations of the Catholic Church. Right? Nowadays, when I read through court documents, I was surprised to read & hear the WT lawyers use the sickening, heartless excuse of "clergy penitent privilege" in every breath and sentence it could.

  Heidi Hervonen did an excellent job linking the Boston Globe articles, the Public Radio Show in Minneapolis, and last year's announcement by the Vatican that it will set up a tribunal to hold bishops accountable if they do not deal with sex abusing priests properly.

  Is the WT now going to have to "set up tribunals" to "deal with Circuit Overseers" or "Service Desk officials" or "Wt lawyers" (let's not forget the men who are the "Guardions Of Doctrine') who do not deal with child sex abuse properly to keep up with the Catholic Church?

  That's ironic, isn't it? The WT "keeping up with" the Catholic Church? Well, it certainly did when it came to child sex abuse occurring over and over again, and nothing being done about it, didn't they?
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  Do todays Jw's care at all about Russell and the pyramid?

  by olongapo joe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.

  i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.

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  I have had a few people say, "someone else put that pyramid there after he died.".... and so begins the circular arguments.

  I like the idea of saying, "I will not sit with men of lies.".... What was the first sin? lying.... What made the whole world fall into it's evilness? Satan lying... Satan is a liar, and the father of the lie. (To which JWs will agree)

  Then, you bring up the ARC trials, and the lies that were told. It is not doctrine, it is just plain old lying. No excuses can be given for lying.

  Just keep repeating, "God will not make me sit with men of lies" "Jesus would not shun me or disfellowship me for not wanting to sit with people who act like his number one adversary" "My conscience will not allow me to support liars" "Do I have to support people who lie?"
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  So , how "worldly" did you get?

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i even hate to use that word worldly tm.. any way i'm probably the worst.. 1 when the jw s come to my door i say i'm not interested .

  2 i have gone to many churches and volunteered.. 3 i shredded all my jw books and magazines out in the woods.. 4 had the mormon elders over and studied with them.. 5 tried pot (its legal here).

  6 open carry my fire arm every where (legal here also).

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  Number 7 made me laugh Rebel8!

  I hated them telling us where to stay! My friend stayed maybe an hour and 20 minutes away from the convention... It took me about an hour and a half... She had traveled 6 hours to get down there, and could not stay "in the city.".... WT probably couldn't make as much money, so they told everyone they 'had to commute'.
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  So , how "worldly" did you get?

  by greenhornet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i even hate to use that word worldly tm.. any way i'm probably the worst.. 1 when the jw s come to my door i say i'm not interested .

  2 i have gone to many churches and volunteered.. 3 i shredded all my jw books and magazines out in the woods.. 4 had the mormon elders over and studied with them.. 5 tried pot (its legal here).

  6 open carry my fire arm every where (legal here also).

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  You know what I LOVE? When I find a cool movie I want to see, the first question ISN'T "what's it rated?" !!! I don't even think about it, haha!
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  'Spotlight' film

  by Jordandemm in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone seen the film dont know if its been discussed on here, im just watching it now with my dad he is an elder, he went to do something else less than a 1/4 way through the film, he doesnt usually do that.

  then he questioned why i choose to watch it not suspiciously i think he was just curious.

  anyway its a film worth watching, its based on true events about the coverup of child abuse within the catholic church.

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  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/spotlight-a-valentine-to-investigative-reporting/

  Quotes from Trey's story:

  “Blye Faust, one of the film’s producers, recently joined the board ofThe Center for Investigative Reporting, where I am executive board chairman. We’re thrilled to have someone with us who worked for seven years to bring the “Spotlight” story to the screen and so deeply gets the value of the journalism involved.”

  “And on Feb. 20, CIR will release a new episode of “Reveal,” our national, weekly investigative public radio show and podcast, that picks up the Catholic Church abuse scandal where the “Spotlight” film ends. “

  …. “ for the past year, CIR has been investigating sexual abuse of children in another closed society, the Jehovah’s Witnesses community, and thatgroup’s attempts to silence the story.”

  “This splash of sunlight already is helping people who are looking to change dark and corrosive practices. It’s one of many public service and social justice issues we pursue at any given time.”

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6245861289885696/show-me-came-from-top-down

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5975535444295680/trey-bundy-one-year-reporting-jw-child-abuse-your-comments-please

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5640807302299648/australia-elder-jailed-over-sex-abuse
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  TWISTING context to produce false LIGHT (Tricks our Governing Body uses)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as a jehovah's witness:.

  two things finally struck me:.

  1. i was really in a grown up kindergarten and .

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  cha ching

  I really enjoyed that Terry, thanks for all the effort, it was a great & well rounded summary of the evil way WT leads you along the path to darkness..

  Funny moggy lover, that we'd great.. So, the truth is getting truthier & truthier! Haha!
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  “Show me it came from the top down!”

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  that’s what the boston globe asked about the catholic church abuse policies… should the same be asked about jw abuse policies?.

  reveal news has a great audio today!.

  https://www.revealnews.org/.

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  Thanks, Mrs. F. ;-)

  I loved it that the Boston Globe’s editor realized the key to any chance of exposing the problem, and getting any hope of change, was ‘showing that the orders came from the top.’

  Maybe with the Australian Royal Commission’s public cross examination of one of the Watchtower’s “top” ones, Geoffrey Jackson, people can see that these “guardians of doctrine” should be held accountable for policies that the 'lower on the chart' elders must ‘listen, obey and be blessed.’
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  Un-****ing-Believable

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just a few observations from this morning.

  .. this morning as i was trying to choke back the bile that kept wanting to come up during the wt study one comment in particular screamed cult.. towards the very end as comments were being made about "counseling" others with "gracious" words one of the uber-dub minstral-serpents made this comment, "we see in the last image that the brother is holding a bible as he counsels the other brother.

  we look closely at the picture and we can know exactly what he is counseling the brother about.

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  cha ching

  I love all these comments! Too funny! Right back at you WT!!
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  “Show me it came from the top down!”

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  that’s what the boston globe asked about the catholic church abuse policies… should the same be asked about jw abuse policies?.

  reveal news has a great audio today!.

  https://www.revealnews.org/.

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  Thx WT-Free! I wish I could clip the sound byte out like you! One day!